Gogeta Blue is probably much stronger than MUI Goku unless Blue to UI has a bigger multiplier than Base form to Blue, which is unlikely. Base Gogeta alone was shown to be at the very least stronger than ssb goku and vegeta. SSB Gogeta VS UI Goku VS Beerus VS Jiren VS Broly(Battle Royale) Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Yeah not to mention MUI can only be used for 1 minute, while Broly and Gogeta were definitely fighting for more than one minute. Powers and Stats. Goku compared Broly to 'possibly' being stronger than Beerus. It's hard to believe Whis is MUI fusion level when SSJB Goku was fodder to Beerus yet SSJB Gogeta can slap the dog s*** outta someone above him. How does that make any sense? While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. There is enough room for UI Goku to be stronger than Broly and still remain weaker than Gogeta. More than likely the increase is similar to the SSJ one. Gogeta or Jiren? Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Broadcast your events with reliable, high-quality live streaming. Goku UI is more powerful, based on feats alone. UI was a huge powerup over SSBKKx20, but i don't think it is anywhere near 100x. probably ui. We have MUI Goku>Jiren>Belmod>Beerus 100%>>>>>>>The amount of Beerus's power Goku saw = or < Broly, who immediately pushed Gogeta to Blue once he went LJSS, so MUI Goku >>>>>> SSB Gogeta. E. Who wins and who goes down first? Super Gogeta Blue. It also showed how strong that character really is, especially after going Blue. Kefla only got to fight UI Goku, where UI is just an absurd power boost beyond what fusion, blue, or ssj4 ever give But … MUI Goku defeated Jiren, who is stronger than a GoD that is stronger than Beerus, based on a statement made by Whis, who is Beerus's teacher and knows his full power. By the end he was flat-out physically overpowering Broly and still didn't come across as going all-out to me outside the parts he was ridiculously stomping. Jiren vs Gogeta. Create. Since ssb gogeta is Beerus level I don't think UI alone can close the gap. MUI Gogeta vs Whis Dragon Ball ... and he was => Beerus. » SSJ Gogeta (Broly Movie) vs LSSJ2 Kefla. and before some1 says ui would even beat ssb gogeta. Similarly SSJB Gogeta has only been shown once, against Broly. With all of this, we can calculate Gogeta's theoretical power level, whether he is stronger than Ultra Instinct Goku or not, and also we can find out the power threshold that Broly is above. No Time limits for UI Goku and Fusions. I honestly think that Gogeta wouldn't stand a chance. Transformations are restricted for Gogeta. Unless UI and MUI gap is as big as … SSB Gogeta VS UI Goku VS Beerus VS Jiren VS Broly(Battle Royale) Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. SSB Gogeta >>>>> Broly > Goku UI > Jiren. Ssj god allowed goku to actually have a battle with beerus when ssj3 got put down in 2 taps like a child. Hope you guys enjoy and thanks for watching! the gap between ssb and ui omen is huge. Vegito: Vegito is a mixture of both Goku and Vegeta's characteristics, with a few deviations. if he knew it back then. Join Community. SSJ Gogeta (Broly Movie) vs LSSJ2 Kefla. Then, I must ask how much power the Super Saiyan Blue form gives a Saiyan, so that we can calculate the total power of Gogeta in his base form (since he was faring better against Broly than two Super Saiyan Blues). Results are only viewable after voting. ssb gogeta is >> UI , tho. He can lower the SSB power as much as needed like Goku did against Krillin and many others. There is enough room for UI Goku to be stronger than Broly and still remain weaker than Gogeta. UI goku should be a little above gogeta but below blue gogeta. Live Streaming. Goku has gotten a whole lot stronger since the start of Super though and even if we assume that his base form is still behind … Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. Couldn't find this with a search so here we go. When Whis and Oracle Fish are discussing Goku and Vegeta's training, Whis tells the Seer that they're only just learning to sense Divine Energy. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. [/quote] Yeah, MUI was stronger, but based on Jiren performance he was just stronger, nothing compared to Gogeta vs Broly [quote]Whis also says "The Limit Breaking Power of the Gods." UI was a huge powerup over SSBKKx20, but i don't think it is anywhere near 100x. probably ui. - Blue Gogeta vs DBS Broly (MOD)! 0. A fusion of two characters (Caulifla and Kale) who aren't even SSJG Goku level on their own, made them strong enough to take blows from the incomplete version of UI Goku. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed save the entire DBS Multiverse from jeopardy. Gogeta was surviving with just SSJ. Who wins and who goes down first? MUI Goku has only been shown once, against Jiren. Join Community. 0. which gogeta is gonna do. we can assume that Broly (Full Power) is more powerful than Gogeta's Super Saiyan God. I haven’t seen anything from Gogeta Blue to convince me otherwise. On a sidenote, if you want to include Super Dragon Ball Heroes, then MUI Goku scales above a post-ToP SSBKKx20 Vegito and SSJ4 Xeno Vegito. That means that he is stronger than Goku Blue in his base form, just by going off the known multipliers that means: SS3 Gogeta: 400x stronger than Goku Blue. Now let's take movie Gogeta. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission! After seeing the Broly Movie, who do you think is stronger now? Base Gogeta SSJ2 Kefla GoD Toppo UI Omen Goku (Debut/Episode 110). Tier: Low 2-C | At least Low 2-C. Name: Gogeta Origin: Dragon Ball. Gogeta Blue >> LB Jiren > FPSS Broly = MUI Goku. !. no , ssj to ssb is a bigger diffrence than ssb and ui. Neither of them have his dodging ability and every time MUI is used it gets better, in one minute he went from being unable to win against Jiren to manhandling a Jiren that had surpassed his limits. I'd say it's pretty clear that Jiren is stronger than Broly (fights off Goku, Vegeta and 17 at their strongest without going full power and when it's mentioned that he's above GoD level it's less nebulous than Goku's guess about Broly's power). Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed to defeat Broly. Probably Gogeta. Even if MUI is above UI goku, gogeta blue is pretty terrifying. But going by evidence that's a … Duke it out. Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot Broly! At the height of the power weve seen them have on screen (so that's Gogeta Blue when he fought Broly) (edited by administrators) Gogeta Autonomous Ultra Instinct (ability) Autonomous Ultra Instinct Dragon Ball Super: Broly. Of course I'm referring to the UI Goku with white hair, not UI Sign Goku. UI Omen Goku vs. SSBE Vegeta UI Omen Goku. The difference between Vegito and Gogeta is the method of fusion adopted by them to become a being with incredible power. ... To be honest, the fact goku thinks broly may be stonger then Beerus yet we know for a fact Jiren is way stronger then any god of destruction should solve this. MUI Goku stomps & negs.... MUI is like a higher state of existance, he doesnt need to think to move at all, everything is like super enhanced.... while SSB Gogeta is stronger and faster, he wont be able to land a hit due to the angelic reflexes of MUI Base Gogeta himself is above this much stronger SSB tier, and from then on you got SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSG, and SSB. But yea I see your point since Gogeta is goku plus Vegeta. At the height of the power weve seen them have on screen (so that's Gogeta Blue when he fought Broly). Tier: Low 2-C | At least Low 2-C. Name: Gogeta Origin: Dragon Ball. MUI beat jiren like a bitch who then went shirtless. UI Omen Goku was weaker then SSj2 Kefla who is a 2 x boost of SSj, and her SSJ was barely stronger then Kaioken Goku as she was getting hurt from here. VIEW OLDER REPLIES. He could trade with Broly where Goku Blue could not. The only way then that Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta would be able to stand any real chance against Goku in the completed Ultra Instinct form is if the difference between Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and Super Saiyan 4 Goku was greater than the difference between UI Goku (ToP) and Super Saiyan God Goku (BoG), and that's just not likely. Press J to jump to the feed. This is just suppressed Jiren btw, as Belmod hasn't even seen Jiren's full power before his fight with UI Goku. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! First of all, Gogeta is stronger than MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren because Gogeta is made of Goku’s and Vegeta’s best traits and multiplies it by a lot so any power-up or transformation Goku or Vegeta gets is added to Gogeta. Make social videos in an instant: use custom templates to tell the right story for your business. Now this is an awkward question to answer. ssj gogeta is stronger than ssb goku but the diffrence is not higher than UI omen and ssb goku. The SSG was like the biggest powerup in the whole series back in the first arc, but nowadays it's barely above SSJ3. If we're generous with UI, it might at most cover the difference from Base to SSJ2 and that's being very, very generous. Gogeta vs Broly was much shorter, which did it good IMO. He is currently the strongest fusion out there as his mere presence fear all of the Gods of Destruction and the Angels. A fusion of two characters (Caulifla and Kale) who aren't even SSJG Goku level on their own, made them strong enough to take blows from the incomplete version of UI Goku. He is currently the strongest fusion out there as his mere presence fear all of the Gods of Destruction and the Angels. Duke it out. » SSJ Gogeta (Broly Movie) vs LSSJ2 Kefla. My logic being that fusions mulitplier should skyrocket Gogeta to top spot especially with SSB on top. Super Full Power Jiren, Hit, and Gogeta will fight Godslayer Hearts together, MUI just can't cut it so they are bringing Gogeta out instead. I think it's safe to say UI Goku is at least at serious Jiren's level, if maybe not Jiren at fullpower. The only characters who have been proven to be stronger than Beerus are MUI Goku and Limit Breaker Jiren.. Firstly, I believe the only character in the series who has the closes idea of how strong Beerus really is would be Whis. So does this mean that UI Goku has overshot Vegito Blue? No Time limits for UI Goku and Fusions. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed to defeat Broly. SSJB Gogeta vs MUI Goku Thread starter Claudio Swiss; Start ... Anyways, im going to go with Current UI Goku being stronger than Broly arc Gogeta. Gogeta Blue is probably much stronger than MUI Goku unless Blue to UI has a bigger multiplier than Base form to Blue, which is unlikely. The one that beat up Cunber in a fight should win this battle. 0. This is a hard stomp. UI was a huge powerup over SSBKKx20, but i don't think it is anywhere near 100x. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. SSBE Vegeta. It’s Gogeta and it’s not even close. Goku vs Jiren was a well-balanced fight, but they built up the hype so early for UI, that it got a bit dull for me at the end. 0. Even without official numbers for God and Blue you can see how stupidly strong he would have be in those forms in comparison to Goku Blue. Gogeta stomped the shit out of Broly while UI Goku struggled against Jiren and straight up couldnt finish the job. Logically, I just don't feel any individual form could be stronger than a fusion of said form's user and another powerful Saiyan. Jiren also shat on SSJ3 Cumber as well. re: Ultra Instinct Goku vs Gogeta Blue quote Vegetto Blue The Saikyo Jump editorial office tells readers: "Frankly, the enemy Goku and co. are up against in this movie is the strongest. While Gogeta will beat up Broly, it's a battle royal, meaning if Gogeta doesn't focus on Broly and end him quickly without interruption, then Broly will simply power up and esclipes everyone UI Beerus, UI Goku, LB Jiren all last about 1 minutes LMFAO they ain't winning that's for sure They should really just let Hit use whatever instant kill moves he has or give him some development, because he doesn’t appear like a legendary over 1000 years old assassin. There are no official mulipliers for any godly transformation, but based on feats and statements MUI Goku stomps SSB Gogeta. Not sure / Draw. Ignoring that, SSB is atleast a 400 times powerup over SSJ. 483. Gogeta only fought Broly though and Broly is obviously stronger than Kefla was. I think Hit would be elimated so quickly. Edit: add DBS Broly Golden Frieza to the match. Your entire argument is based on assumptions. There is enough room for UI Goku to be stronger than Broly and still remain weaker than Gogeta. SSJ2 Gogeta alove should take a massive dump on UI Goku. Is Gogeta blue faster? Gogeta vs Broly is Gogeta fighting someone strong enough to have some fun with, but who is outdone in every metric, from firepower, to toughness, to of course skill. In reality there’s no way Broly, UI Goku and Jiren could match him as they aren’t in excess of 400x the strength of Goku Blue. Gogeta Blue is probably much stronger than MUI Goku unless Blue to UI has a bigger multiplier than Base form to Blue, which is unlikely. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. SSB Gogeta is needed to pull a win against Broly so hes running in the same ballpark of power. So yeah, SSJ Gogeta is comfortably above Omen Goku, and UI omen was weaker then Jiren in 127 any ways His timeskip would be useless. But I'm not sure how Jiren stacks up to Gogeta. SSJ Gogeta (Broly Movie) vs LSSJ2 Kefla. and before some1 says ui would even beat ssb gogeta. [quote]Episode 130 has the Kai of Universe 11 being baffled by how strong Mui Goku is and questions if Goku's power greatly surpasses Jirens. no , ssj to ssb is a bigger diffrence than ssb and ui. Because Broly forced Gogeta to use Super Saiyan Blue, we can assume that Broly (Full Power) is more powerful than Gogeta's Super Saiyan God. UI Omen Goku was weaker then SSj2 Kefla who is a 2 x boost of SSj, and her SSJ was barely stronger then Kaioken Goku as she was getting hurt from here. Base Gogeta did better than SSB Goku and Vegeta, but let's just lowball and put SSJ Gogeta at SSBKKx20 level. It is only because Broly needed to be shown as a threat, and Gogeta needed a highlight reel that there was even a fight in the first place. MUI Goku vs Gogeta. Edit: add DBS Broly Golden Frieza to the match. Yes, his ki attacks are superior but fights aren’t won solely on ki attacks alone. Jun 20, 2020 #1. Base Gogeta SSJ2 Kefla GoD Toppo UI Omen Goku (Debut/Episode 110). Broly bends UI Goku over as well. If they fused … Powers and Stats. That won't help him at all, he was only getting faster than Jiren and it was commented on with them saying why is he getting faster. UI goku held his own and got put down slowly and steadily until MUI emerged. what is beating up cumber, to fighting godsayer hearts? Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! Firstly, I must ask: how much of a multiplier do we think that Ultra Instinct (the complete Ultra Instinct) gives Goku in terms of power? No it hasn't been proven Gogeta is stronger than Beerus. And … Blue is above ssj god. The reason I'm saying that Broly (Full Power) is stronger than Gogeta's Super Saiyan God is because, as Whis states in the ToP, SSB exerts a lot more Ki than SSG does, so it would be impractical for Gogeta to use SSB if he could still beat Broly (Full Power) in SSG because he can use SSG for a longer time (not to mention the fusion would break apart quicker when using SSB.). SSJ3 is a 8x boost over SSJ and Blue is atleast 50x SSG based on the Kefla fight. yeah, and Broly and Gogeta fighting together against MUI Goku would lose. I'd imagine UI Goku is stronger than blue Gogeta as well fwiw but that is just based on how the forms are portrayed. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Now this is where interpretation really comes in. Gogeta was pushed to Blue by Broly, who MIGHT BE stronger than Beerus based only on the power Goku saw of Beerus. He's made up of a Goku and Vegeta that made not only got massively stronger throughout the ToP, but continued to train and get stronger ever since. No reason to assume he can't take on Broly with a >8x powerup (SSG). Broly bends UI Goku over as well. UI is basically a power that even the gods have trouble mastering. so UI omen wins here. Jun 20, 2020 #1. VS. ... Kefla, Buu and even Vegitto / Gogeta etc. MUI Gogeta vs Whis Dragon Ball - General This is ... truly is, even SSJB Gogeta crushed Broly, and he was => Beerus. And him going ssj would mean he would be at … While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. level 2. Kale also shat on nearly everyone but Jiren when she went wild. The only reason why Gogeta even had to throw more than one punch is because it was a movie, on paper he is so strong it’s not even funny. Even MUI Goku would be lucky if he could fight BASE Gogeta, never mind force Gogeta to use Blue like LSSJ Broly did. LB Jiren, while arguably stronger than MUI Goku, lost to MUI Goku due to Goku's skill in UI. If this was kaioken x 20 SSB Goku vs SSJ4 Gogeta, I do think we'd have a very good fight. Erkan12. Then, I need to know how much of a power multiplier Super Saiyan God gives a Saiyan. Goku and vegeta overall in this movie are stronger than their ToP self (UI not included), which means that their ssb > ssb in the ToP. It was his anger from Jirens attack on the stands that made gave him a rage boost and that was later. Goku at the end of the Broly movie stated that he 'might' be stronger than Beerus, whilst Jiren was stronger than a GoD that was definitively stronger than Beerus himself as stated by Whis. re: CUI Goku vs SsjB Gogeta The whole point of UI is that the user's body moves freely and cannot be touched (granted exceptions can be made) but if Gogeta can't hit Goku then he can't win. Even MUI Goku would be lucky if he could fight BASE Gogeta, never mind force Gogeta to use Blue like LSSJ Broly did. the gap between ssb and ui omen is huge. They could be on the same level but Goku keeping his poise and holding his own with Moro who absorbed Merus power is pretty crazy. Transformations are restricted for Gogeta. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. You are indeed where you belong. The only scaling for Beerus and Jiren is a magazine scan that claims MUI Goku is 'possibly' stronger than Beerus. But Gogeta also can’t do UI. 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